The Greek very much had a concept of Physics.

The word physics comes from the Latin physica (‘study of nature’), which itself is a borrowing of the Greek φυσική (phusikḗ ‘natural science’), a term derived from φύσις (phúsis ‘origin, nature, property’) (Wikipedia)

Also note that Aristotelian physics was the dominant paradigm in Europe almost until Newton.

There’s an argument to be had that engineering didn’t exist as a science until recently. Several of the more famous engineering treatises name it as crafting.

That’s very revisionist of you.

What we call physics today wouldn’t qualify as physics in Ancient Greece, where they described how the world actually works, and not bothering with this empiricism nonsense.

There are plenty of textbooks of physics before then, even predating Greece. Waterworks, astronomy, ship building, architecture, war machines, not to mention metaphysics, alchemy, atomic theory, etc.

We didn’t have a rigorous scientific method until thereabouts though.

You can say stupid on Lemmy

So… you’re the reason for the climate apocalypse?

255 grams/week of pork or poultry

#savedyouaclick

Yes, let’s go back to the company who’d sack me and loads of my colleagues on the whim that an untested notion of a tool might work.

I’m sure they’ll value me this time

What’s brown and sticky?

A stick

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Your argument was that fascists can destroy a lot of incremental change in a short while. I’m agreeing with you.

Although your assertion that it doesn’t apply to politics is tenuous. I would say there’s plenty of evidence against it from the dawn of civilisation: Ur, the Aztecs, Babylon, Ancient Greece, Persia, the Nordic countries, China, Enlightenment France, the Roman Empire, the Empire of Japan, the Austro-Hungarian Empire. All rode to ages of political dominance on the backs of stability, even the ones who resorted to genocide or purging opposition.

Cuba, Poland, Iraq, the EU and Australia have all also had immense growth and development in the last century in tandem with stability. In contrast to Afghanistan, ISIS, Palestine or the African warlord regions who haven’t had as much.

So my point still stands, in the US, at least one party has spent decades tearing down, and from the looks of it one of them never tried to build anything up.

Yet, the population continues to vote this way. It’s hard not to see it as voluntary; In that much time, accessing as much free information and thought as the US has, you can’t really claim to be ignorant of differing information, other than willfully.

If both ruling parties are that obviously corrupt, why is there no action? It’s been done in the country before, as well as in many other places, including in the last decade (Arab spring, South Korean president, BLM).

The argument points toward willfull acceptance if not outright choice.

If you disagree, give me evidence, not just your feelings.

If you don’t, but don’t accept the consequence - get out there and do something about it.

I think that positive change takes time, patience and planning. Destruction and plundering next to none.

Even if a messiah would force through single payer universal healthcare working through all the hurdles, teething problems and upheaval to get something in place. It doesn’t take more than a Musk-Trump to tear it down in a month.

The Republicans have been tearing stuff down for a long while and for decades not building anything worthwhile. But apparently that’s the way the country wants it

Agreed.

But I don’t get why the expectation is that Biden would be the hero to save 50 years of progressively worse governance by the republicans. Even if he was altogether the ideal (which I’m not sure any politician could be), he’s still human and also has a huge government apparatus with considerable inertia to overcome. And replacing people leads to the same behaviours we see now, entrenched resistance, passive resistance, loss of knowledge, loss of service/communication/trust/reliability, wasted resources, etc.

Constructive politics needs to create a stable environment, that can’t be done by drastic changes, and especially not in every facet every 4 years. Isn’t that why there’s now so much chaos, uncertainty and loss of trust both nationally and overseas?

I mean, tariffs are a long term economic stimulus tool, changing them every week gets the economy, allies, and the private sector very nervous as you might have noticed these last few months.

You might even have heard that companies protest investing in new production capabilites as they don’t know what the tariffs will be in 3 years when the production facility is done.

I’ll state the same as in the other comment. Not flip-flopping is the expected norm to maintain stability, relationships and long term governance. Poor choices have effects over many years, as drastic changes every 4 years have even more damaging effects.

So you’re upset that the government doesn’t flip-flop with each president?

I can report that this is the norm for non-autocratic societies. Maintaining stability, relations, and long term governance.

What do you suppose Biden should have done with the rest of the legislative and judiciary systems stacked against him, blocking almost any change?

Seeing as all room they had to manevuer was through brow beating and bending orders/budgets, they got a lot of good done…

“You are what you eat” the Blue Fairy’s wisdom echoed, as Pinocchios gaze turned towards the elementary school.

Haha, I like your funny words magic man

I only ever have my shit together just before pushing it out of my life.

Water touching water surely mixes, no?

Mixing elements would entail the elements dissolving or at least distributing within the mix, making boundaries between them unclear. The mix can however have a clear edge.

Does milk wet cocoa, or do they mix? The hot chocolate of course has a surface, but if you add rum to it does it really adhere to it?

Does that mean that lava is wet? How about glass? Or a mercury thermometer? Or space, touching liquid/plasmatic hydrogen (or liquified gasses)?

I wouldn’t call any of those wet in my daily life.