Any reasoning that is mainly centered around giving people specific labels, and then making sweeping generalizations about what everyone with that label does and why it’s therefore okay to hate anyone you have chosen to apply that label to because of things some other people have done, is almost always some bullshit.
Also, yes, it’s ironic that you’re posting this under their specific meme.
You might be right. I feel like I saw it on Lemmy a couple of days ago and just absorbed it uncritically, and I cannot find it any other place now.
Some of the most authoritarian people I come into contact with on any kind of regular basis are “leftists” on Lemmy.
The ones in real life are not like that. I feel like Reddit’s moderation model really encourages it, and some of them started really taking it to heart when they came to Lemmy which copied that same model.
A check in which the airplane and engines are taken apart, typically carried out every six to 12 years, can take months to complete and cost millions of dollars
This is for a normal plane. Every Air Force 1 (there are a couple) gets fully taken apart and rebuilt about every 6 months. And, the process of vetting and rebuilding this new dingus to become capable to be Air Force 1 will probably cost around a billion dollars. “Millions of dollars” is just the tip suggestion they’ll see on the screen when they go to pay for the absolutely monstrous amount of money this will cost the United States.
My money’s on wooosh but it could be either one tbh.
I like how the first person came in with some nonsense and you turned it up to TURBO nonsense.
Lemmy needs a better moderation model. When gibberish starts to be a significant part of the conversation, having volunteers apply “the rules of the community” just doesn’t accomplish the purpose of keeping it productive. Idk what the answer is, but this is not what success looks like.
Is that what it is? I have been generally baffled by the dishonest accounts that tend to say both “yay Russia” and “yay China” sort of with equal fervor, alongside a random little rogue’s gallery of other bizarre takes of which this is an example. I genuinely considered whether the strategy was just to be wrong about everything for some reason I can’t understand.
@[email protected] where do you get this stuff? Like what news do you read / who do you listen to that tells you that this all is how it works? I want to read more.
https://ponder.cat/u/[email protected]?page=1&sort=Controversial&view=Overview
Just gonna leave that there. Search for “2014 Maidan coup” for example, or “Bernie” or “blue MAGA.” Or “Taiwan.”
No idea what this guy’s talking about in this instance, it makes about as much sense as the very notable coincidental confluence of other stuff he likes to talk about. But as pertains to this case, all the leaked operations where people found out what the feds were up to were roughly 0% “let’s promote anarchism and infiltrate the ranks because that will discredit the left” and roughly 100% “let’s keep tabs on the left indiscriminately, in case we have to shoot them or throw them in prison.”
Periodically, they would try to promote infighting or discredit some notable leader, but it was mostly that second thing. They don’t have to be all 5d chess about it, they have guns and prisons.
Yeah, that one line needs fixing:
If his haircut’s tight and high
And it fits a suit and tie
I don’t know about the fed level, but in my limited experience the haircut thing is not really accurate. I feel like looking at haircut and shoes comes from another and much more primitive era of law enforcement. A lot of undercover people work long-term as undercover people, and they have deliberately sort of “fellow kids” hair and facial hair.
Vibes and how well you know the person are more reliable than any specific checklist. If you wanted the checklist though, this is not a bad one.
One additional thing I’ve noticed as a tell is that everything is polished. Whatever type of “street” clothes they want to put on, the shirt tends to be neat and spotless, everything is clean, the facial hair is groomed. I imagine it varies by the skill level of the person, but in general cops don’t like to be sloppy. Even their “sloppiness” costume will still be neat and presentable.
It’s just melon charging ridiculous prices to his own companies?
I suspect that it is exactly that, yes. That and a bunch of investment money which they are planning on flushing down any toilet they can find.
I don’t really know but they certainly have no other revenue stream that I think is realistic.
Encouraged even
Absolutely that’s what it means.
Also, it means that the way his brain works is that this will convince people there is white genocide in South Africa, as opposed to them having any ability to connect the dots that it just means Elon Musk is out of his god damned mind.
I can’t even really make sense of this but I think the diagnosis as pointless rage bait is pretty accurate
I wanted to make sure I sat down and really replied to you before because I generally like your takes and respect you as a person, and a quick reply from my phone would be impossible as a medium for replying to your thoughtful and well stated argument.
Yeah, all good. I mean maybe I am wrong, we can talk about it.
My issue with Substack isn’t that there’s Nazis on there, it’s that Substack’s owners made sure they were there, and made sure they got a cut of the revenue sharing scheme.
Okay so this is actually one of the issues that made me start to say that this is deliberate disinformation, not just people saying some stuff I don’t agree with. The thing is: I don’t think this is actually true. I saw a big article that made this claim, I dug into the details, and it turned out to be one of those “Ship of Theseus” things where, the people they invited were not the Nazis, just some random people with MAGA-type ideas, and they hadn’t expressed those MAGA-type ideas until long after Substack’s dealings with them had been and gone (pre-2017 Matt Taibbi I think was one). Basically, Substack in this aspect did nothing wrong at all. But people wrapped it up like they had sought out Richard Spenser and invited him to the platform and made sure to give him some money to get things started, which is false, and it was weird that people were trying so hard to say that that had happened. What they did was took millions of dollars from VCs and then gave it to good journalists.
Who are you talking about when you say the Substack owners made sure there were Nazis? I want to dig into this a little bit more and where you heard that from.
There’s a whole separate issue of them allowing for real neo-Nazis. I’m probably in the vast minority, but I actually think that was fine. It’s the same like I think Hasan Piker can say whatever the fuck he wants, it’s the same like I think nutomic can have transphobic views if he wants. I think it is fine.
Like I say, I’m probably the minority there.
considered it important to Substack’s future that those Nazis be present and paid.
The question I find myself asking is what views do they hold, what do they tolerate, and how long until they find a new way to promote those views or allow someone to co-opt their waveforms to broadcast their message to us.
Just to be clear: Are you saying that they’re in any way promoting or in favor of Nazis? Or just that they allow them on the platform and that’s the huge problem?
I’ve seen the first thing, and I think that’s what you’re saying, but if you are saying the second thing it’s a different conversation.
I guess ultimately, what I’m driving at, is that it is my view that Substack, like Medium, is a captured outlet. It can only ever show you a distorted version of the truth that serves its holders of power, who are ultimately aligned with the techbroligarchs that are strangling all of us.
I don’t think any of this is true. I haven’t seen any indication at all that they’re distorting anything about the blogs that are hosted there, and the very nature of them (as far as I’m aware) makes it pretty difficult for them to start rigging the algorithm to promote one instead of another, or anything like that.
I do think it’s a problem that Substack is a centralized platform. That I will 100% agree with you on. The point being that regardless of whether the current owners are up to anything, there’s the strong likelihood in the future that it will succumb to the inevitable like so many before it.
I think Ghost is probably a much better model, to be honest. On the other hand, because Substack is centralized, they were able to subsidize good journalism to get the ball rolling, and I think that was a really good thing. And, of course, it’s absolutely impossible to keep Nazis off of Ghost either. Actually, even the purge of Nazis that Substack eventually did, would be impossible on Ghost, because its decentralized nature means they would be there to stay if they chose Ghost. It’s more or less impossible to stop, generally speaking. (Which is part of why I agree with Substack’s original stance on it.)
Does this make sense?
The west failed Ukraine
True
and no one is taking accountability
Mostly true
that does nothing
I mean they’ve been funding about a quarter of the war and giving technology and intelligence support that has been keeping Ukraine alive against an opponent literally 20 times their size. They have also been distracted to the point of negligent homicide in their consistency and magnitude of support, absolutely, but even within those drawbacks I think that is at least slightly more than nothing.
You didn’t answer, but @[email protected] just figured out what the image was from. It’s a photo of a page from a textbook showing an undated and heavily edited composite view of the earth, of unknown accuracy from unknown sources. Sterling.
I have 0 idea that this will change your mind, since you already know you’re right, and any contrary information is some kind of offense against you instead of just someone trying to talk sense and logic. All conversations are zero-sum. Loyalty is more important than truth. And so on. Clearly.
Have a good one
I absolutely did, sorry about that.
Customs and Border Patrol
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/07/difference-between-ice-and-cbp-the-role-of-each-agency-in-family-separations-and-immigration-enforcement.html