Right but unfortunately it took away almost all of the roleplaying aspects and ruined the dialogue. The lead designer even acknowledged that this was the case.

The story itself in fallout has always been pretty good, but the roleplaying, dialogue, and how you got there were what really set games like fallout 2 apart from the competition.

Yes i played fallout 4 so I’m familiar with most if not all of those plot points, but that isn’t what I’m criticizing. The story was ok, it was just told poorly. It was the story telling, dialogue, and roleplaying that suffered

Also, charles Barkley shut up and jam gaiden is effectively a fallout-esque RPG basketball game. I could take all of the aspects you said in your linked post and make them background noise to a diamond City basketball tournament. Checks all the boxes, but it feels wrong. This is how i feel about fallout 4.

https://www.pcgamer.com/fallout-4-lead-todd-howard-dialogue-system-didnt-work-as-well/

I literally made myself a fresh cup of coffee and also a fresh cup of tea this morning. No ragrets

A weird summary but a somewhat fair one. Yeah 4 does feel more like borderlands, that’s a good point.

I think this is a bit of a fallacy. While i agree on the premise that if it’s a fun game it’s fun, where is the line? The fallout series was primarily very story driven for over 20 years. If it doesn’t matter, then make it something completely off the wall - fallout 5 - the basketball drama. Life in a post apocalyptic Indiana isn’t easy, but what’s even more difficult is getting to the championship. Changes to stat scaling include sharpshooting, which improves your 3 point shot. There’s potential here.

At some point, you build a reputation and a fan base. I’m glad some people enjoy the game for what it is, but what i want is a new story that made me feel like fallout 2 did. New Vegas was the closest one. Fo4 wasn’t it.

It’s a standard that the series built for itself.

Sorry i meant that as a theoretical response to the character in the meme.

I personally thought fo4 was ok, but they intentionally dumbed down the dialogue and roleplaying, which ruined my immersion. Once i said “no i will not attack the railroad,” and the brotherhood laughed at me and said yeah anyway (the railroad is now hostile), that kinda ruined my fun.

While I disagree with 4 being the best one, my previous comment was regarding the character in the meme.

I think anything besides 4 or 76 would be considered acceptable. Both fallout 2 and new Vegas were absolute gems

Sure that makes sense. Helps to get a little more detail, thanks.

Something not a lot of people are talking about is why the different vinegars are so different.

Vinegar has similar properties to alcohol. My understanding is that they’re made similarly. For example, white vinegar is basically like grain alcohol. It’s… Unpleasant.

Balsamic though? Similar to wine. Pretty great, and so many variations

Malt vinegar? Beer. Pretty tasty.

Same deal with apple cider and rice vinegars

But yeah, plain white vinegar is not great

Adam Scott doesn’t appear on the show until the second to last episode of season 2. There’s quite a lot of character development before his appearance, and his character doesn’t have a strong impact until season 3, i would say

We skip season 1 as well, but it’s only like 6 episodes. Season 2 was the first full season, and was substantially better.